End prayers in Parliament and councils

End prayers in Parliament and councils

Page 17 of 37: Prayers aren’t government business.

We don't think religious worship should play any part in the formal business of the state.

We want to see parliamentary and local government meetings conducted in a manner equally welcoming to all attendees, whatever their personal beliefs.

Parliamentary prayers

Sittings in both the House of Commons and the House of Lords begin with Anglican prayers. MPs and peers stand for prayers facing the wall behind them – a practice thought to have developed due to the difficulty members would historically have faced of kneeling to pray while wearing a sword.

When the chamber is at its busiest, parliamentary prayers act as a bizarre and antiquated seat reservation system. Even MPs and peers who are slated to speak have no option but to attend prayers in order to reserve a seat.

Whilst they may be viewed by some as an important tradition, parliamentary prayers serve to assert the superiority of Christianity (and the Church of England in particular) at Westminster. This 'tradition' is inimical to a modern, pluralistic, secular democracy.

In the Scottish Parliament, Tuesday afternoon sessions begin with 'Time for Reflection', with faith and belief representatives invited to addresses members for up to four minutes. The Northern Ireland Assembly begins formal business with a period of two minutes of silent prayer or contemplation. The Welsh Assembly has adopted no such rituals.

Parliamentarians who wish to pray are free to do so. But prayers should not form part of the official business of Parliament.

Council prayers

Many local authorities in Britain also begin their meetings with prayer.

Local democracy should be equally welcoming to all sections of society, regardless of their religion or belief. Council meetings should be conducted without anyone feeling excluded, or compelled to either participate in prayers or absent themselves from part of the meeting.

Council prayers open the door to wholly unnecessary conflict and sectarian squabbles within local authorities. There is a history of local councillors being bullied and marginalised for challenging council prayers.

The absence of prayers from the formal business of meetings in no way impedes religious freedoms or denies anybody the right to pray. Conversely, organised worship in secular settings imposes worship on those who do not share the faith. A genuine commitment to freedom of religion or belief is incompatible with including acts of worship in the formal business of council meetings.

If local authorities wish to hold a moment of silent reflection at the beginning of a meeting, or if councillors wish to meet for prayers prior to the meeting, they are at liberty to do so.

Take action!

1. Write to your MP

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Latest updates

Council prayers bill “no triumph for democracy”

Posted: Sun, 15 Mar 2015 06:51

A Bill enabling local authorities in England to hold prayers as part of their official business and to "support or facilitate" religious events has cleared its latest hurdle and is set to become law.

The Private Member's Bill, introduced with assistance from the Department of Communities and Local Government, would reverse the High Court's decision in 2012 in favour of the NSS in National Secular Society and Clive Bone v. Bideford Town Council which ruled councils had no powers to hold prayers during meetings.

On 13 March during the Committee stage debate in the House of Lords, a number of peers strongly criticised the Local Government (Religious etc. Observances) Bill.

Lord Avebury (LibDem), a National Secular Society (NSS) honorary associate, said: "It is no triumph for democracy if local authorities and other bodies covered by this Bill are given power to impose something which is bound to divide members from one another according to their religion or belief."

He added that those, both councillors and staff, not wishing prayers were put in a position that was "unwelcoming, discourteous and divisive", illustrating his concerns with the experiences of a Muslim former Tory councillor in Reigate and Banstead Borough Council. He had found the imposition of Christian worship "wholly alienating" and was ostracised by fellow councillors after raising objections.

But the Conservative peer Lord Elton, a member of the All Party Parliamentary Christians in Parliament Group , said he saw no problem with those not wishing to participate in prayers having to "wait outside and then come in".

Lord Avebury also refuted justifications for the Bill based on entirely erroneous interpretations of the Court ruling, suggesting for example that councillors would be powerless to attend events such as remembrance services.

Lord Avebury said that "The ruling could not, by the greatest stretch of the imagination, apply to events outside the council chamber and that applies not only to private meetings for prayer but to voluntary attendance at remembrance or other religious services, which are not remotely controversial."

The Earl of Clancarty, Nicholas Trench (a cross bencher), said the legislation deserved proper scrutiny, and noted that that whilst some Private Members' Bills have "close to unanimous support from Peers and public alike", the Local Government Bill is "not such a bill." The Earl said he was "very glad that we have had a proper debate" on the Bill, which had gone through the Commons without a vote, in an almost empty chamber.

The Earl suggested that the proper response to the 2012 High Court ruling would have been to ask how widely shared are the concerns that individuals may feel excluded by prayers were. Instead, he accused the Government of simply putting things back to where we were, sweeping such concerns under the carpet and refusing to acknowledge them.

Lord Cashman (Labour), another NSS honorary associate, criticised the Bill's the desire to entangle politics and religion. He said: "I believe that many of the problems that we face in this country and in the world today are because religion and belief occupy to a larger and greater extent the public space, with a direct connection with politics."

He said he had "deep concerns about the intentions of the Bill and, subsequently, the unintended consequences that could occur, not only in council meetings within our cities and suburbs but within those other places, in committees and meetings, to which the Bill extends prayers."

Baroness Flather (Cross bencher) said she would never accept that prayers should be a part of council meetings because religious worship was "not council business".

Lord Taverne (Lib Dem) said the Bill was "a step in the wrong direction". "The influence of politics and religion should be kept apart through the separation of church and state, and the Bill does not do so", he said.

Peers opposing the Bill had tabled several amendments which would have gone some way to addressing secularist concerns. One would have required a two-thirds majority of local authority members to agree before religious observances could be carried out as part of official business. Another, tabled by Earl of Clancarty and Baroness Flather sought to replace prayers or other religious observance with a period of silent prayer, in the interests of ensuring "scrupulous impartiality of councils towards all beliefs and non-beliefs".

The Bishop of Leicester, who led prayers in the chamber immediately before the debate, said that in his experience the argument for prayer in public comes from the leaders of the many faiths in Leicester, and said "the solidarity of people standing together in respect for the divine is a very significant part of how we preserve cohesion in our society."

Lord True, leader of the London Borough of Richmond, which starts council meetings with prayer, said he would "vastly prefer it if the National Secular Society did not go round the country seeking to drive out aspects of faith in public life" and accused secularists of bring division where there is none.

Baroness Flather responded by saying she first came to Britain in 1947 and had seen huge change in each decade since. She said: "The National Secular Society is giving voice to the opinion held by many people... It is not a case of what the National Secular Society is advocating; the rest of us have changed."

A YouGov poll conducted following the 2012 High Court ruling on prayers showed that 55% of respondents were against councils holding prayers with only 26% of respondents in favour.

However, noting the support for the Bill in the House of Commons and there being no prospect of successfully amending the Bill, all amendments were withdrawn.

The Bill is now like to receive Royal Assent before Parliament is dissolved on 30 March ahead of the general election.

Speaking after the debate, Nicholas Trench, the Earl of Clancarty, commented: "'With a large presence in the house of peers in support of the bill – the sentiment in the Chamber did not reflect the more evenly divided opinion of the country, where a majority would be rather happier if council prayers were dropped. The public is ahead of Parliament on this. Perhaps traditionally religious beliefs have been part of spurring people into public life and therefore into Parliament, but that this is not necessarily so today, nor how it will be in the future".

NSS campaigns manager, Stephen Evans, commented: "It is a shame that defenders of the Bill dwelt so much on the 'freedom' of councils to hold prayers, and did not properly consider the religious liberty of individual councillors, many of whom simply want to conduct the business for which they have been elected, and not to have other people's religious beliefs imposed on them.

"Despite being granted a new power to pray, we hope local councils will choose not to turn town halls into places of worship and ensure that their meetings are conducted without anyone feeling compelled to participate in prayers, or feeling in any way excluded."

The full debate can be read at Hansard.

Council prayers bill branded a "recipe for divisiveness"

Posted: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 07:18

A Government backed Bill to give local councils the power to include prayers in their meetings has been branded a 'recipe for divisiveness' during a House of Lords debate.

Raising concerns during the Bill's Second reading debate, Crossbench peer Nicholas Trench, The Earl of Clancarty, said he wished to draw attention to matters of principle as well as practicalities "which we ignore at our peril".

The Earl warned that if the Bill passes, "we will have a recipe for divisiveness and storing up potential problems in the long term". He said the wisest course for councils was to be "scrupulously impartial with respect to the beliefs and non-beliefs held by the residents of a local area".

The Local Government (Religious etc. Observances) Bill is an attempt to reverse a High Court ruling that local councils had no statutory powers to summons councillors to prayers following a legal challenge by the National Secular Society and a former Bideford Town councillor.

In defending prayers as a formal part of council meetings, Communities Secretary Eric Pickles has insisted that Britain is a "a Christian country". However, the Earl of Clancarty said this was "only partly true". "We are today a multi-cultural, multi-faith country, which contains a diversity of beliefs and non-beliefs", he argued, citing a Huffington Post UK poll conducted in October last year found that more than 60% of those polled in Britain were "not religious at all".

The crossbench peer said "Institutionalising a particular religion within the formal business of a council meeting or identifying the council with a belief, or even a range of beliefs, must in the modern age be insensitive and crosses what many people would think is today's acceptable line."

The Bill was introduced in the House of Commons by the Christian back bench MP Jake Berry, but was drafted with assistance from the Department of Communities and Local Government, led by Eric Pickles. It is being carried through he House of Lords by Lord Cormack, a committed Christian and former rector's warden at Parliament's St Margaret's parish church.

Introducing the Bill he said he was "particularly glad to see the right reverend Prelate the Bishop of Carlisle" in the Chamber, who he complimented on leading parliamentary prayers "with a particular grace and dignity". He also said it was "splendidly symbolic" that in the near empty Chamber there was a "Minister who is a Muslim and a government Whip and Minister who is a Hindu".

Lord Cormack insisted that the Bill "imposes no obligations upon anyone" despite the fact that it would enable prayers to held during the formal business of council meetings to which all councillors are summoned to attend.

No peers spoke in support of the Bill other than the Government and Labour front bench spokespeople, Lord Ahmad and Lord Kennedy, who both wished the Bill "speedy progress into law".

As in the House of Commons, the Bill progressed without a vote and will next be debated in Committee.

The debate can be read in full at Hansard